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		<title>Dropping One of my Financial Goals for the Year</title>
		<link>http://pantsinacan.com/2010/02/28/dropping-one-of-my-financial-goals-for-the-year/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brainy Smurf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, I&#8217;m ditching the goal of finally getting a Roth IRA account set-up and fully funded in 2010. It isn&#8217;t that I can&#8217;t afford to do it&#8230; It&#8217;s just that a good old fashioned incandescent light bulb finally lit up (powered by knob &#038; tube wiring) and I re-remembered why I&#8217;d never opened an account [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://pantsinacan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/luongo.jpg" alt="Roberto Luongo" title="Roberto Luongo" width="365" height="285" align="right" />Okay, I&#8217;m ditching the <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2009/12/15/prepping-for-2010-hard-financial-goals/">goal</a> of finally getting a Roth IRA account set-up and fully funded in 2010.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t that I can&#8217;t afford to do it&#8230;  It&#8217;s just that a good old fashioned incandescent light bulb finally lit up (powered by <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2007/06/08/preparations-begin/">knob &#038; tube wiring</a>) and I <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2008/09/04/roth-ira-or-traditional-ira-how-about-neither/">re-remembered</a> why I&#8217;d never opened an account in the first place.</p>
<p>The big hurdle that I don&#8217;t want to have to confront is all that business about access to the money. </p>
<p>Specifically, it&#8217;s the <u>lack</u> of access to the money &#8212; even with a Roth &#8212; that turns me off.</p>
<p>My 401k already has over $85k tied up that I can&#8217;t touch for the next 26 years.  That&#8217;s a really long time.  And it sure feels like an awful lot of money too&#8230;</p>
<p>A Roth IRA on top of it all would just make more of my money inaccessable &#8212; when I kinda need it.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not going to stop contributing to <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2009/06/22/boo-no-more-401k-employer-match/">my currently match-less 401k</a> or anything.  I&#8217;ve toyed with the idea but haven&#8217;t acted on it and I&#8217;m not planning to.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m also not keen on the idea of locking more of my income away where I can&#8217;t get at it.  </p>
<p>A decent selection of plain Jane mutual funds would probably suit me better.  Same risk with full access.</p>
<p>(The tax implications, or &#8216;advantages&#8217;, are, as far as I&#8217;m concerned, minimal.)</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the key &#8212; if I need the money before my knees are completely shot (which I will), I can get it.</p>
<p>For now, though, the money that would have gone to fund the Roth IRA will be probably be split very unevenly between savings and mortgage overpayments.</p>
<p>Sorry &#8212; you just can&#8217;t convince me that having your house paid for in your mid-thirties is a poor financial strategy&#8230;</p>
<p>To me, eliminating the biggest monthly bill forever <b><i>is</i></b> financial freedom.</p>
<p>Oh, yeah, and GO CANADA!</p>
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		<title>Time to Try Timing the Market?</title>
		<link>http://pantsinacan.com/2008/11/16/time-to-try-timing-the-market/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brainy Smurf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m no expert, but a few months ago when Jim Cramer predicted that the DJIA would fall to 8000, I told myself that I&#8217;d buy in if it ever closed under that number. Of course, back then, the Dow was cruising along nicely at the 12000 mark and I thought that he was either high [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://pantsinacan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cramer_jim2.jpg" alt="Jim Cramer" align=right />I&#8217;m no expert, but a few months ago when <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cramer">Jim Cramer</a> predicted that the DJIA would fall to 8000, I told myself that I&#8217;d buy in if it ever closed under that number.</p>
<p>Of course, back then, the Dow was cruising along nicely at the 12000 mark and I thought that he was either high or just an idiot &#8212; an entertaining one.</p>
<p>Well, going out on a limb (a tiny one), I&#8217;m expecting his prediction to finally happen this week&#8230;</p>
<p>So am I buying in? </p>
<p>Reconsidering that <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2008/09/04/roth-ira-or-traditional-ira-how-about-neither/">Roth IRA</a> idea I was throwing around?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got the funds available to max out a Roth for the year, and then throw some extra towards some ridiculously diverse mutual fund or something&#8230;</p>
<p>But, no&#8230;  <b>I&#8217;m not going to do it.</b></p>
<p>See, I want to buy in, I really do.  I have no doubt that, years down the road, I&#8217;d see this as a really wise investment &#8212; one of my few really bright financial manoeuvres.</p>
<p>But right now, my primary goals are short term and, right this minute, I&#8217;m not willing to sacrifice them in favor of a long term goal.</p>
<p>Dumb move?  Maybe&#8230;  </p>
<p>But have you <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2008/11/08/shame-as-a-motivator/">seen my entry room</a>?</p>
<p>Sheesh&#8230;</p>
<p>That place is *still* a wreck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Roth IRA or Traditional IRA?  How about neither?</title>
		<link>http://pantsinacan.com/2008/09/04/roth-ira-or-traditional-ira-how-about-neither/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brainy Smurf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmmmm&#8230; Which to choose&#8230; I&#8217;m not really sure. I&#8217;ve researched the advantages and disadvantages of both and it&#8217;s just left me more confused than I was at the start. It seems most folks my age (32) lean heavily towards the Roth IRA because it&#8217;s taxed now and not in the future when you expect to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img align=right src="http://pantsinacan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ira.jpg" alt="Individual Retirement Account" />Hmmmmm&#8230;  Which to choose&#8230;  <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2008/08/12/addendum-to-2008-goals/">I&#8217;m not really sure.</a>  I&#8217;ve researched the advantages and disadvantages of both and it&#8217;s just left me more confused than I was at the start.</p>
<p>It seems most folks my age (32) lean heavily towards the Roth IRA because it&#8217;s taxed now and not in the future when you expect to be in a higher tax bracket.</p>
<p>But unlike most folks my age, I&#8217;m a little bit more realistic when it comes to my earning potential and what tax bracket I&#8217;ll fall in to fifteen to twenty years down the road.  I&#8217;m not optimistic.</p>
<p>When nearing retirement, though taxes will most likely have gone up, I actually expect to be in a <b>lower</b> tax bracket than I am now so that &#8220;advantage&#8221; of the Roth is totally lost on me.  The Traditional IRA wins out.</p>
<p>On the other hand, with a Roth IRA, you can make withdrawals all along without penalty.  No waiting until turing 59 and a half.  If I need another $5k to <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2008/05/07/dreams-of-grandeur-three-car-garage/">build my dream garage</a> or something, I can grab it from my Roth IRA and not get hit with a bunch of fees, penalties, and/or taxes.  In that respect, the Roth IRA is clearly better.</p>
<p>By the end of this year, I&#8217;ll easily have enough to fully fund one or the other.  Obviously I&#8217;m still having a hard time deciding which is the wiser course of action.</p>
<p>Further, I still struggle to come to terms with the idea that being limited to $5k per year will add up very quickly or keep me interested.</p>
<p>I realized that the limit is increased slightly every few years, but even still &#8212; <b>what takes me just three years of contributing to my 401k will take over a decade with either type of IRA.</b>  </p>
<p>It just seems&#8230;slow?  It <u>is</u> slow.</p>
<p>The advantages, from my perspective, don&#8217;t outweigh the limitations &#8212; specifically, <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2008/01/04/ive-hit-the-401k-ira-and-roth-ira-contribution-limit/">the low contribution limits</a>.</p>
<p>It seems like they&#8217;re little more than a way to supplement your savings &#8212; being <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2008/01/04/ive-hit-the-401k-ira-and-roth-ira-contribution-limit/">limited to such a small contribution</a>, it&#8217;s certainly not jump starting anything.  It can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But maybe I&#8217;m *still* missing something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Addendum to 2008 Goals</title>
		<link>http://pantsinacan.com/2008/08/12/addendum-to-2008-goals/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brainy Smurf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve already stated that I&#8217;m throwing in the towel on the $10k in savings by the end of the year. At the time, it was still remotely possible to achieve, but now, a few weeks later, it&#8217;s not a goal that I&#8217;m confident that I can accomplish. And I&#8217;m not sure if anyone has noticed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img align=right src='http://pantsinacan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/confusion.jpg' alt='Confusion and Frustration' />I&#8217;ve already stated that I&#8217;m <a href=”http://pantsinacan.com/2008/07/21/debt-payment-check-savings-um-maybe-next-year/”>throwing in the towel</a> on the $10k in savings by the end of the year.  At the time, it was still remotely possible to achieve, but now, a few weeks later, it&#8217;s not a goal that I&#8217;m confident that I can accomplish.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not sure if anyone has noticed that I&#8217;ve mysteriously misplaced a couple of my original goals&#8230;  </p>
<p>One was to <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2008/02/28/is-it-too-late-to-add-another-goal-for-2008/">run a marathon</a> in a competitive fashion and the other was to <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2007/12/18/brainy-smurfs-pf-goals-for-2008/">increase my passive income</a>.</p>
<p>The first isn&#8217;t happening.  No way, no how.  I&#8217;ve got <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2008/06/10/a-quick-google-saved-me-an-extra-10-on-sneakers/">the shoes</a>.  I&#8217;ve got the time.  But I don&#8217;t have the stamina.  I&#8217;ve given it the &#8220;old college try&#8221; a few times this summer &#8212; running 6 or 7 consecutive days in a row &#8212; but an eventual bout of asthma always put a stop to it before I really got into a good routine. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just not there anymore, and this late in the game, I&#8217;m not sure I could even get up to speed to run that far in time for the <a href="http://www.nycmarathon.org/">NYC Marathon</a> in November (sponsored by ING &#8212; how appropriate!).  Maybe next year.</p>
<p>The other goal was to increase my passive income considerably.  I stated that I wanted to <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2007/12/18/brainy-smurfs-pf-goals-for-2008/">triple</a> it in 2008. Yikes!  What was I thinking?</p>
<p>So far, I have definitely increased my passive income over years past, but not by a whole lot.  Certainly not triple.  From day one, it was an unrealistic goal.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s okay. As long as I&#8217;m working less and still making a few bucks as I sleep, it&#8217;s all good.  And I think the entire idea stemmed from the fact that I knew I wanted to work less &#8212; I just didn&#8217;t want to earn less too.  So, looking at it that way, I half-way accomplished the goal since I am definitely working less.  Kinda?  Sorta?</p>
<p>But the new goal I&#8217;m adding stems from a comment made by <a href="http://www.artofthecoupon.com/">Coupon Artist</a> earlier this month.  She <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2008/08/01/net-worth-update-august-2008-3328/#comments">inquired</a> as to why I&#8217;d increase my 401k contributions more (I&#8217;ve already hit the <a href="http://pantsinacan.com/2007/12/27/taxes-preparing-for-2008/">maximum match</a>) when I could be contributing to an IRA instead.</p>
<p>I admitted to my ignorance on the subject, but having read up on it a bit over the past few days, rather than strive for the $10k in savings this year, I&#8217;m going to instead open a Roth IRA with Vanguard and contribute the full $5k before the end of the year (though I&#8217;m aware I could wait all the way up until April 15, 2009).</p>
<p>I still can&#8217;t really grasp the advantages of a Roth IRA, but in the long-term picture, having some money there certainly can&#8217;t hurt.</p>
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